diff --git a/src/blackcore/db/databasewriter.cpp b/src/blackcore/db/databasewriter.cpp
index 4d4a96501..e918b7dc0 100644
--- a/src/blackcore/db/databasewriter.cpp
+++ b/src/blackcore/db/databasewriter.cpp
@@ -49,6 +49,18 @@ namespace BlackCore
                 return msgs;
             }
 
+            if (this->isReplyOverdue())
+            {
+                bool killed = this->killPendingReply();
+                if (killed)
+                {
+                    const CStatusMessage msg(CStatusMessage::SeverityWarning, "Aborted outdated pending reply");
+                    msgs.push_back(CStatusMessage(msg));
+                    // need to let a potential receiver know it has failed
+                    emit this->publishedModels(CAircraftModelList(), CAircraftModelList(), msg, false, false);
+                }
+            }
+
             if (m_pendingReply)
             {
                 msgs.push_back(CStatusMessage(CStatusMessage::SeverityWarning, "Another write operation in progress"));
@@ -66,17 +78,14 @@ namespace BlackCore
             }
 
             m_pendingReply = sApp->postToNetwork(request, multiPart, { this, &CDatabaseWriter::ps_postModelsResponse});
+            m_replyPendingSince = QDateTime::currentMSecsSinceEpoch();
             return msgs;
         }
 
         void CDatabaseWriter::gracefulShutdown()
         {
             m_shutdown = true;
-            if (m_pendingReply)
-            {
-                m_pendingReply->abort();
-                m_pendingReply = nullptr;
-            }
+            this->killPendingReply();
         }
 
         void CDatabaseWriter::ps_postModelsResponse(QNetworkReply *nwReplyPtr)
@@ -100,26 +109,42 @@ namespace BlackCore
                 if (dataFileData.isEmpty())
                 {
                     const CStatusMessageList msgs({CStatusMessage(cats, CStatusMessage::SeverityError, "No response data from " + urlString)});
-                    emit publishedModels(CAircraftModelList(), CAircraftModelList(), msgs);
+                    emit publishedModels(CAircraftModelList(), CAircraftModelList(), msgs, false, false);
                     return;
                 }
 
                 CAircraftModelList modelsPublished;
                 CAircraftModelList modelsSkipped;
                 CStatusMessageList msgs;
-                bool success = CDatastoreUtility::parseSwiftPublishResponse(dataFileData, modelsPublished, modelsSkipped, msgs);
-                emit publishedModels(modelsPublished, modelsSkipped, msgs);
-                Q_UNUSED(success);
+                bool directWrite;
+                const bool success = CDatastoreUtility::parseSwiftPublishResponse(dataFileData, modelsPublished, modelsSkipped, msgs, directWrite);
+                emit publishedModels(modelsPublished, modelsSkipped, msgs, success, directWrite);
             }
             else
             {
                 QString error = nwReply->errorString();
                 nwReply->close(); // close asap
                 const CStatusMessageList msgs( {CStatusMessage(cats, CStatusMessage::SeverityError, "HTTP error: " + error)});
-                emit publishedModels(CAircraftModelList(), CAircraftModelList(), msgs);
+                emit publishedModels(CAircraftModelList(), CAircraftModelList(), msgs, false, false);
             }
         }
 
+        bool CDatabaseWriter::killPendingReply()
+        {
+            if (!m_pendingReply) { return false; }
+            m_pendingReply->abort();
+            m_pendingReply = nullptr;
+            m_replyPendingSince = -1;
+            return true;
+        }
+
+        bool CDatabaseWriter::isReplyOverdue() const
+        {
+            if (m_replyPendingSince < 0 || !m_pendingReply) { return false; }
+            qint64 ms = QDateTime::currentMSecsSinceEpoch() - m_replyPendingSince;
+            return ms > 7500;
+        }
+
         CUrl CDatabaseWriter::getModelPublishUrl(const Network::CUrl &baseUrl)
         {
             return baseUrl.withAppendedPath("service/publishmodels.php");
diff --git a/src/blackcore/db/databasewriter.h b/src/blackcore/db/databasewriter.h
index 66577cb8e..7435871b0 100644
--- a/src/blackcore/db/databasewriter.h
+++ b/src/blackcore/db/databasewriter.h
@@ -44,7 +44,10 @@ namespace BlackCore
 
         signals:
             //! Published models, the response to \sa asyncPublishModels
-            void publishedModels(const BlackMisc::Simulation::CAircraftModelList &modelsPublished, const BlackMisc::Simulation::CAircraftModelList &modelsSkipped, const BlackMisc::CStatusMessageList &messages);
+            void publishedModels(const BlackMisc::Simulation::CAircraftModelList &modelsPublished,
+                                 const BlackMisc::Simulation::CAircraftModelList &modelsSkipped,
+                                 const BlackMisc::CStatusMessageList &messages,
+                                 bool success, bool directWrite);
 
         private slots:
             //! Post response
@@ -53,8 +56,15 @@ namespace BlackCore
         private:
             BlackMisc::Network::CUrl                       m_modelPublishUrl;
             QNetworkReply                                 *m_pendingReply = nullptr;
+            qint64                                         m_replyPendingSince = -1;
             bool                                           m_shutdown = false;
 
+            //! Kill the pending reply
+            bool killPendingReply();
+
+            //! Reply timed out?
+            bool isReplyOverdue() const;
+
             //! URL model web service
             static BlackMisc::Network::CUrl getModelPublishUrl(const BlackMisc::Network::CUrl &baseUrl);
 
diff --git a/src/blackgui/components/dbmappingcomponent.cpp b/src/blackgui/components/dbmappingcomponent.cpp
index 59f9de2ef..e908f5f0d 100644
--- a/src/blackgui/components/dbmappingcomponent.cpp
+++ b/src/blackgui/components/dbmappingcomponent.cpp
@@ -595,9 +595,10 @@ namespace BlackGui
             emit this->tabIndexChanged(index);
         }
 
-        void CDbMappingComponent::ps_onModelsSuccessfullyPublished(const CAircraftModelList &models)
+        void CDbMappingComponent::ps_onModelsSuccessfullyPublished(const CAircraftModelList &models, bool directWrite)
         {
             if (models.isEmpty()) { return; }
+            if (!directWrite) { return; } // no models wwritten, but CRs
             emit this->requestUpdatedData(CEntityFlags::ModelEntity);
         }
 
diff --git a/src/blackgui/components/dbmappingcomponent.h b/src/blackgui/components/dbmappingcomponent.h
index ec01441cc..95cb9dd88 100644
--- a/src/blackgui/components/dbmappingcomponent.h
+++ b/src/blackgui/components/dbmappingcomponent.h
@@ -235,7 +235,7 @@ namespace BlackGui
             void ps_onStashedModelsDataChanged(int count, bool withFilter);
 
             //! Models have been published successfully
-            void ps_onModelsSuccessfullyPublished(const BlackMisc::Simulation::CAircraftModelList &models);
+            void ps_onModelsSuccessfullyPublished(const BlackMisc::Simulation::CAircraftModelList &models, bool directWrite);
 
             //! Stash drop request
             void ps_handleStashDropRequest(const BlackMisc::Aviation::CAirlineIcaoCode &code) const;
diff --git a/src/blackgui/components/dbstashcomponent.cpp b/src/blackgui/components/dbstashcomponent.cpp
index 7bde67858..72b3f6941 100644
--- a/src/blackgui/components/dbstashcomponent.cpp
+++ b/src/blackgui/components/dbstashcomponent.cpp
@@ -282,12 +282,12 @@ namespace BlackGui
             }
         }
 
-        void CDbStashComponent::ps_publishedModelsResponse(const CAircraftModelList &publishedModels, const CAircraftModelList &skippedModels, const CStatusMessageList &msgs)
+        void CDbStashComponent::ps_publishedModelsResponse(const CAircraftModelList &publishedModels, const CAircraftModelList &skippedModels, const CStatusMessageList &msgs, bool success, bool directWrite)
         {
             ui->tvp_StashAircraftModels->hideLoadIndicator();
-            if (!publishedModels.isEmpty())
+            if (!publishedModels.isEmpty() && success)
             {
-                emit this->modelsSuccessfullyPublished(publishedModels);
+                emit this->modelsSuccessfullyPublished(publishedModels, directWrite);
             }
 
             if (!msgs.isEmpty())
diff --git a/src/blackgui/components/dbstashcomponent.h b/src/blackgui/components/dbstashcomponent.h
index ff25e0e2f..195902fb0 100644
--- a/src/blackgui/components/dbstashcomponent.h
+++ b/src/blackgui/components/dbstashcomponent.h
@@ -134,7 +134,7 @@ namespace BlackGui
             void stashedModelsChanged();
 
             //! Models succesfully published
-            void modelsSuccessfullyPublished(const BlackMisc::Simulation::CAircraftModelList &publishedModels);
+            void modelsSuccessfullyPublished(const BlackMisc::Simulation::CAircraftModelList &publishedModels, bool directWrite);
 
         private slots:
             //! Unstash pressed
@@ -152,7 +152,7 @@ namespace BlackGui
             //! Publish response received
             void ps_publishedModelsResponse(const BlackMisc::Simulation::CAircraftModelList &publishedModels,
                                             const BlackMisc::Simulation::CAircraftModelList &skippedModels,
-                                            const BlackMisc::CStatusMessageList &msgs);
+                                            const BlackMisc::CStatusMessageList &msgs, bool success, bool directWrite);
 
             //! Copy over values
             void ps_copyOverPartsToSelected();
diff --git a/src/blackmisc/db/datastoreutility.cpp b/src/blackmisc/db/datastoreutility.cpp
index e9b85f2e6..1713d071d 100644
--- a/src/blackmisc/db/datastoreutility.cpp
+++ b/src/blackmisc/db/datastoreutility.cpp
@@ -77,9 +77,11 @@ namespace BlackMisc
             }
         }
 
-        bool CDatastoreUtility::parseSwiftPublishResponse(const QString &jsonResponse, CAircraftModelList &publishedModels,  CAircraftModelList &skippedModels, CStatusMessageList &messages)
+        bool CDatastoreUtility::parseSwiftPublishResponse(const QString &jsonResponse, CAircraftModelList &publishedModels,  CAircraftModelList &skippedModels, CStatusMessageList &messages, bool &directWrite)
         {
             static const CLogCategoryList cats({ CLogCategory::swiftDbWebservice()});
+            directWrite = false;
+
             if (jsonResponse.isEmpty())
             {
                 messages.push_back(CStatusMessage(cats, CStatusMessage::SeverityError, "Empty JSON data"));
@@ -88,7 +90,7 @@ namespace BlackMisc
 
             QJsonDocument jsonDoc(QJsonDocument::fromJson(jsonResponse.toUtf8()));
 
-            // array of messages
+            // array of messages only
             if (jsonDoc.isArray())
             {
                 CStatusMessageList msgs(CStatusMessageList::fromDatabaseJson(jsonDoc.array()));
@@ -106,7 +108,7 @@ namespace BlackMisc
 
             // fully blown object
             QJsonObject json(jsonDoc.object());
-            bool data = false;
+            bool hasData = false;
             if (json.contains("msgs"))
             {
                 QJsonValue msgJson(json.take("msgs"));
@@ -114,10 +116,17 @@ namespace BlackMisc
                 if (!msgs.isEmpty())
                 {
                     messages.push_back(msgs);
-                    data = true;
+                    hasData = true;
                 }
             }
 
+            // direct write means models written, otherwise CRs
+            if (json.contains("directWrite"))
+            {
+                QJsonValue dw(json.take("directWrite"));
+                directWrite = dw.toBool(false);
+            }
+
             if (json.contains("publishedModels"))
             {
                 QJsonValue publishedJson(json.take("publishedModels"));
@@ -125,7 +134,7 @@ namespace BlackMisc
                 if (!published.isEmpty())
                 {
                     publishedModels.push_back(published);
-                    data = true;
+                    hasData = true;
                 }
             }
 
@@ -136,16 +145,16 @@ namespace BlackMisc
                 if (!skipped.isEmpty())
                 {
                     skippedModels.push_back(skipped);
-                    data = true;
+                    hasData = true;
                 }
             }
 
-            if (!data)
+            if (!hasData)
             {
                 messages.push_back(CStatusMessage(cats, CStatusMessage::SeverityError, "Received response, but no JSON data"));
             }
 
-            return data;
+            return hasData;
         }
     } // ns
 } // ns
diff --git a/src/blackmisc/db/datastoreutility.h b/src/blackmisc/db/datastoreutility.h
index cf69bc5f7..16f0bbecc 100644
--- a/src/blackmisc/db/datastoreutility.h
+++ b/src/blackmisc/db/datastoreutility.h
@@ -46,7 +46,10 @@ namespace BlackMisc
             static QDateTime parseTimestamp(const QString &timestamp);
 
             //! Get data from a DB response
-            static bool parseSwiftPublishResponse(const QString &jsonResponse, BlackMisc::Simulation::CAircraftModelList &publishedModels, BlackMisc::Simulation::CAircraftModelList &skippedModels, BlackMisc::CStatusMessageList &messages);
+            static bool parseSwiftPublishResponse(const QString &jsonResponse,
+                                                  BlackMisc::Simulation::CAircraftModelList &publishedModels,
+                                                  BlackMisc::Simulation::CAircraftModelList &skippedModels,
+                                                  BlackMisc::CStatusMessageList &messages, bool &directWrite);
         };
     } // namespace
 } // namespace